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luiset83 04-17-2014 09:52 PM

The reality is that as newer laptops come with DisplayPort, sometimes in addition to HDMI and/or VGA, docking stations based on this technology will become a thing of the past.

See for example:
http://www.displayport.org/cables/dr...ayport-output/

In the meantime, yes, DisplayLink is shooting themselves in the foot not supporting Linux OS's....

Cedric 04-21-2014 07:15 PM

I do not understand why DisplayLink does not develop a bit more than Mac in order to bring to Ubuntu users a functional device ! Today you must consider Windows, Mac dans Ubuntu as worldwide OS.

I bought a Dell XPS 13 certified by Canonical for Ubuntu OS use. Dell told me when I was ordering there were not any problem of compatibility with your D 3000. It cost me 150 € ! Finally it sleeps in my office waiting for your team to bring a simple linux support....:mad:

+1000 for linux support !!!!

David Raymond 05-28-2014 04:41 PM

Like many others, I want to be able to use a docking station with Linux. Please bring this up the priority list!

Others - please keep signing the petition on change.org

nanoop13 05-31-2014 02:37 PM

The Universal Truth
 
Hi DL,

Now I am not saying that you are completely useless, but releasing display link drivers for USB 3.0 on Linux ain't your piece of cake.

Now I am not saying that you have incompetent developers or your Business Strategy team sucks, but releasing display link drivers for USB 3.0 on Linux ain't your piece of cake.

And also I am not saying that you will be ever be satisfied licking Microsoft because Satya Nadella & other folks at Microsoft enjoy it very much and they won't let you explore other world of possibilities.

Can't wait for the day when Google takes over Microsoft in OS business( Just like Android took over IOS ) and The Great Google OS does not support display link in either USB 2.0 or USB 3.0. Well then, since your lazy employees will be jobless, you can get them recruited at Microsoft.

You want to become "Android" by being consumer friendly or some deprecated thing of the past?

Sorry if I intentionally or unintentionally did hurt your feelings, but if you can not deliver to people buying your products, nothing about you should be taken care of.

khamer 06-11-2014 06:00 PM

The petition has now reached 600 signatures in ~5 months.

Let's be civil, this is a negligent company decision, not the fault of the engineers in here. DisplayLink doesn't believe there's sufficient interest to make it worth their while to support linux, and we're trying to establish that they're wrong.

DisplayPort is nice but most laptops and ultrabooks only have one DisplayPort port, and would rely on USB3.0 to power a second external monitor.

I got rid of the $200 Lenovo USB 3.0 Dock I had purchased, because it didn't make sense to continue waiting without any indication from DisplayLink if they're ever going to resolve this.

DisplayLink, what would it take to establish sufficient interest to at least work with the open source community to get DL-3000 series drivers under way?

David Raymond 07-16-2014 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luiset83 (Post 74138)
The reality is that as newer laptops come with DisplayPort, sometimes in addition to HDMI and/or VGA, docking stations based on this technology will become a thing of the past.

See for example:
http://www.displayport.org/cables/dr...ayport-output/

In the meantime, yes, DisplayLink is shooting themselves in the foot not supporting Linux OS's....

I would still want a docking station even with DisplayPort - I'd like to connect all my peripherals, including monitors, with a single USB 3.0 connection to make docking and undocking quick and easy.

The petition now over 700 signatures - interesting that no-one from DisplayLink as commented on this thread for a long time. Is anyone there?

surjio 07-22-2014 04:59 PM

The best incentive we can all offer this rubbish company is to vote with our wallets and buy other machines which have proper docking connectors. With a bit of luck they'll go out of business and the good companies will survive.

Blastyr 08-01-2014 01:35 AM

I could apologize in advance for the hostility that will probably come across in the tone of this post, but it wouldn't be sincere. It is clear to me that DisplayLink has no concern for the exploding demographic of users who run Linux, and therefore I'm not concerned with being polite. I will, however, keep my language in check, as I'd prefer it read rather than deleted.

I switched to Linux as my primary OS in 2008, and I've never looked back. Over time, I've been extricating myself from Windows entirely. It's no longer installed as a host OS (not even dual-boot) on any of my machines, and if I didn't need to test on multiple platforms (I'm a developer), I wouldn't even keep it around in a VM. It is (sans the testing bit) wholly unnecessary for anything I do - work or play. I have Steam with an ever-growing library of games (not to mention the games that are just plain native [thanks, Humble Bundle]), a web browser, LibreOffice for those trying times when I have to interact with someone living in the past, my entire toolchain for work, teleconferencing with Google Hangouts...and multiple displays.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wim (Post 9199)
[...] As the Linux community hasn't adopted multiple displays [...]

What planet do you live on? I and three of my coworkers use Linux all day at work with three displays each. Two on Debian using Gnome, one on Ubuntu using Unity, and myself on Linux Mint using Cinnamon. In all cases, hotplugging these displays and configuring them took literally seconds. I know many dozens of others that use Linux, and the overwhelming majority of them do so with more than one display (six, in one case). So, when you state that Linux users don't use multiple displays, you're either being blatantly ignorant or deliberately untruthful. In either case, you should just shut up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wim (Post 9199)
[...] or created "easy to use" DisplayLink drivers for the DL-1x5 chips, justifying the work we would have to do to enable DL-3xxx support on Linux is difficult. So if you want to help show there is demand for DL-3xxx Linux drivers, making drivers stable and easy to use for the DL-1x5 family and showing demand for these USB 2.0 products on Linux first would be the catalyst to get DL-3xxx family support on Linux. [...]

This is absolutely the most backwards way of thinking I've ever heard. Open-source is not about getting other people to write your code for you, but I suspect you know that and are just trying to get the community to do it for you anyway. I'm gonna go ahead and point out that it's very likely that the reason there's so little interest in Linux support for the DL-3xxx series is precisely because there's no support. Your product doesn't do anything compelling to make us want to use it because when we plug it in, it literally doesn't do anything compelling (or at all). You've proven you don't care to support us, so we've moved on.

I'll be physically breaking this waste of $100 to vent some of my anger, and then disposing of it. Goodbye, and good riddance.

thnld 08-06-2014 05:29 PM

Hi,
this video shows how Chrome OS supports displaylink apparently quite well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW0QNcr6aJ0
Chrome OS is linux based. This indicates that there is some working implementation.
Please,
explain this.
Please,
make this code available on both Chrome OS and other linux flavours.
Thanks

raoulbhatia 08-12-2014 12:34 PM

Which other product to use?
 
So, while DisplayLink is deciding on that matter,
which other product, maybe from a different company, should we use to connect two (or even more) monitors to our laptops?

I have purchased a Lenovo ThinPad Dock 3.0 for my Lenovo X1 Carbon,
but as i require Linux for my daily work, this does not work out...

yochaigal 08-14-2014 06:53 PM

Just adding my 2 cents to this thread - I have a Carbon X1 (2nd gen) and I also purchased a Displaylink port replicator/dock from lenovo.
I am able to use multimonitors in Windows without issue; but not with Linux.

Why DisplayLink, why do you hate me? I'll happily never purchase a computer that uses your product again after this experience - and that includes for my clients (IT consultant for large companies). So, say goodbye to that sort of business, at least.

vevmesteren 08-22-2014 06:46 PM

my two cents
 
I manage a team of developers as well as Security and DevOps. Bought a new Dell Sputnik for everyone of them. A couple of us bought ourselves the DELL dock in addition. Having the Terminal on 23inches is just so much nicer. Now finding ourselves with a glorified USB hub.



What a dissapointment....

David Raymond 08-23-2014 07:11 PM

Complain on Facebook
 
On their Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/DisplayLink.social) they stated on 10th June "Afraid there are currently no plans for desktop linux drivers". I suggest people flood that page with complaints!

gilrim 10-03-2014 10:25 PM

bounty?
 
I'd be willing to chip in for a reverse engineering attempt, anyone know where to start something like that?

FourFire 10-05-2014 11:16 AM

You could look through the website of this person who was already reverse engineering the devices, but dropped off the map; http://floe.butterbrot.org/displaylink/doku.php And this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci8HbCRRZvM

Good luck!
I wish I could contribute, as I also have an ASUS MB168b+ which is pretty much useless to me except as a laptable.

jamesT 12-09-2014 03:37 PM

Disappointed that there is no linux support. Will not be purchasing or recommending DisplayLink products. period.

FerdiFuchs 12-18-2014 03:44 PM

I'm also very disappointed that there is no linux support.
Without docking, the t440s seems useless for me!
Except a 200-Euro-USB3 HUB with integrated ethernet! wow!

Gave all the hardware for return today and claiming for refund. Lookin for other manufacturers than displaylink and lenovo.

Greets,
FerdiFuchs


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banderson5586 12-23-2014 08:52 AM

Haven't read all of the comments but here is my +1 for this being supported. It's been years since the first request for this has come in and people are still requesting. I find it odd that something like this, with constant customer visibility, has not been addressed. Admittedly, I have only done small amounts of research into whether or not this is possible yet but it is looking grim.

With companies like Dell releasing "Devloper" model laptops such as the XPS 13 (I purchased the XPS 12, basically the same thing but I can boot into Android so it doubles as a tablet) which natively support Ubuntu, how can this still be a question of demand? The day DsiplayLink 3.0 equipped docks support Ubuntu I will buy 2, until then I'll manage with Synergy and one small display.

uter 12-26-2014 09:07 AM

I really like the displaydriver driver in the windows world & don't get it why there is no linux alternative :( Hopefuly there will be one in the near future. It's the most debated thread in this forum and there is even a petition that ran quite successful. @DisplayLink please don't ignore the linux world any longer. For me is a closed driver also ok on the linux world, like the graphic card drivers...

AmigoNico 12-28-2014 11:45 AM

Was keeping me on WIndows
 
The ability to drive an additional monitor over USB 3.0 was the only thing keeping me on Windows. But Linux in a VM on a Windows host has proven painful enough that I'm giving up -- I just want Linux, not Windows.

DisplayLink, if you ever get your act together on Linux, then we'll meet again.

banderson5586 12-29-2014 09:14 PM

I am in contact with Dell. (I'm assuming) They are one of DisplayLinks larger customers and right now DisplayLink is hurting their customer experience and revenues. Hopefully they can get traction where we cannot. I will not stop pressing the issue with Dell until they confirm a Dell representative has reached out to DisplayLink.

banderson5586 12-29-2014 10:13 PM

I read a comment by Wim from a couple years back stating that HDCP was one of the reasons an open source implementation is not supported. Is that the issue that is keeping this from being developed?

billq 12-30-2014 11:13 PM

Isn't it really about time?
 
This thread started June, 2012, and is 15 pages long.

My employer uses Linux desktops extensively for all engineers and programmers, and would love to be able to support DisplayLink on USB 3.0 docks. That's roughly 2000 desktops.

What does it take for some folks to realize that the Linux desktop is viable and in use?

chralph 01-07-2015 10:40 AM

Alternatives
 
We have just purchased the Dell Displaylink DL3100 to go with our dell xps 13 laptops and obviously it does not work with linux. Does anyone know of any work arounds or any other docking stations that can be bought that will work with this kit?

Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks

Chralph

LaurentG 01-07-2015 11:29 AM

DL-3xxx series still can't be used on Linux ?
 
Hi,

I have a new Inspiron 7000 and they is now Ethernet Connector on this Slim laptop ! It is very enoying, I am obliged to use a Docking Station that doesn't work on Linux :(

I'm also very interested in Linux support for the DL-3xxx chipsets.
Any update on the ETA jet?

Someone knows any other solution ?

regards,
Laurent

LaurentG 01-08-2015 08:48 AM

DL-X product sent back to reseller...
 
Hi,

Finaly, a simple USB to Ethenet (TrendNet) allows me Laptop (Linux OS, Ubuntu Gnome) to have Ethernet connection. And the Second Screen is done by laptop HDMI output.

So don't need DisplayLink product anymore for me, sorry...

Regards,
Laurent

banderson5586 01-11-2015 10:13 PM

Display Link is most likely ignoring this thread as well as Facebook posts about a Linux driver.

Rather than posting and getting ignored by Display Link I suggest everyone on this thread reach out to their hardware manufacturer and don't stop until they raise the issue with Display Link.

I am still working my way through the trenches that is Dell customer support but I have no need for Belkin, Targus or Lenovo products so I suggest someone else who would purchase those products (or any other) reach out and do the same thing I am doing with Dell.

notmy1realname 01-23-2015 04:12 AM

USB 3.0 USB Adapters
 
I echo the disappointment that is evident throughout this thread.

How could I help support the support of DL-3xxx chipsets for Linux?

Also, here's the most relevant report I was able to find regarding similar requests from the community:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...x/+bug/1376771

I can't program, but I'd be happy to support financially.

Thanks!

blu_oreo 02-02-2015 10:41 AM

Having the same issue, just bought a DA100 for my DELL XPS and using a Ubuntu linux and need to use the features of the adapter especially network and VGA....any news on the topic?
Would really appreaciate help in solving the issue.

blu_oreo 02-05-2015 09:04 AM

I know there should be some official support from DisplayLink, but as a matter of fact there isn't yet.
I guess most of the people writing in this post have some form of programming knowledge. Can't we organize in some way to make it our own? Let's build from the bottom up this driver we all want and need!!

Looking forward to you reactions.

PS: I don't know where to start otherwise I would already be busy with that! :-)

jerry_to 02-05-2015 01:44 PM

I just came back from FOSDEM '15 and heard that there are some activity with DL USB 3.0. Dave Airlie (Red Hat) is attempting to figure out a new protocol.

http://airlied.livejournal.com/
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/~airlied/dl3dev/

Smiley0455 02-05-2015 08:27 PM

Did not buy USB 3.0 Docking Station from Dell due to lacking Linux support
 
Bought Dell XPS 13 2015 model, installed Ubuntu 14.04 with minor mods. Fantastic computer, recommend. Gladly to myself found this thread with all discussions relating to absence of Linux driver before I bought the computer.

I did not buy Dell USB 3.0 docking station as an accessorry. I voted and acted with my money. "Shame on you" approach seem not to work with DisplayLink.

tivoni 02-06-2015 09:47 AM

No Linux, no buy
 
Another verbose +1:

I run Linux as my embedded and web development environment. Was about to buy one of those cute usb 3.0 docking stations, because it's exactly what I need. Then I found out about this fiasco, the fact that DisplayLink chips do not support Linux intentionally (for whatever reasons, I don't care). Big thumbs down. Not going to buy a docking station until Linux is supported.

I hope DisplayLink or a competitor supports Linux soon.

To DisplayLink reps:
It's time to accept it, Linux is real and there are users who expect product support. Don't tell us why it can't work. We couldn't care less. Make it work so we can focus on the next big thing.
Thank you.

gilrim 02-11-2015 02:46 PM

this guy seems to be working / prodding the issue
 
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/~airlied/dl3dev/
http://airlied.livejournal.com/
https://plus.google.com/104877287288...ts/PQ6adATfcyT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...tGNs9Dc#t=2595
"I've wasted a few months on that lately, just because I don't like them" :/

"So for some reason I decided to look at the displaylink usb3 adaptors today. (no good news).
This blog post is so I don't forget all of this when I page it out. Notes, HDCP1.0 being broken doesn't matter to this, maybe HDCPv2.0 being a bit broken could be used, but I'm not sure how!"

Dan 02-16-2015 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tivoni (Post 76500)
Another verbose +1:

I run Linux as my embedded and web development environment. Was about to buy one of those cute usb 3.0 docking stations, because it's exactly what I need. Then I found out about this fiasco, the fact that DisplayLink chips do not support Linux intentionally (for whatever reasons, I don't care). Big thumbs down. Not going to buy a docking station until Linux is supported.

I hope DisplayLink or a competitor supports Linux soon.

To DisplayLink reps:
It's time to accept it, Linux is real and there are users who expect product support. Don't tell us why it can't work. We couldn't care less. Make it work so we can focus on the next big thing.
Thank you.

Hey - we demoed Android and ChromeOS support at international forums. We run linux hugely internally, like all our chip development runs on linux. But since it's timewarped locked CentOS for them to use the tools they need, there's very little chance we could get our drivers to work on them.

If we saw credible support for the existing DL1x5 chips in Linux for multiscreen, then that would be some motivation. Until that, people will just moan that we haven't bent the OS to work with our chips as well as Windows did with little change to the number of complaints we get.

ove 02-18-2015 02:59 PM

The DL1x5 chips are well supported on newer Linux kernels.

I have a "Lenovo VDK8736 USB Port replicator with digital video" using the DL165 chipset and when I connect it to my Ubuntu 14.04 it just works... no configuration required.

The performance is not very good when you use a display manager like Unity or Gnome but it works.

If DisplayLink provided support for the newer chipset with USB-3 then I guess the performance problem will go away.

gilrim 02-19-2015 05:05 PM

what are you saying exactly?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan (Post 76578)
Hey - we demoed Android and ChromeOS support at international forums. We run linux hugely internally, like all our chip development runs on linux. But since it's timewarped locked CentOS for them to use the tools they need, there's very little chance we could get our drivers to work on them.

If we saw credible support for the existing DL1x5 chips in Linux for multiscreen, then that would be some motivation. Until that, people will just moan that we haven't bent the OS to work with our chips as well as Windows did with little change to the number of complaints we get.

I'm having a hard time comprehending what your trying to communicate here. Are you saying that "yes, we realize that Linux is a valuable target, but don't release specs nor proprietary drivers because Linux users whine and moan", or are you saying "our devs run ancient centos versions, and since that's the case anything we build will be deprecated"?
Please clarify your stance on this issue, as there clearly is a huge following that have your products but are prohibited from using them.
Again; reaching out to the community with some documentation would very well get you a long way, as it did with the libdlo drivers quite a few years back now. the pluggable guys even shipped embedded linux hardware using it, I can't see how this would be any different now..

soccerties 02-20-2015 10:26 PM

DisplayLink Alternative
 
Like others here I was bummed to found out DisplayLink USB 3.0 devices are not support on Linux. But there is now an alternative: Displayport MST (multi-stream transport).

There is support for MST starting in kernel 3.17 (thank you David Airlie). Here's how to use MST in Ubuntu with Intel graphics card: http://askubuntu.com/a/552094

ulysse68 02-23-2015 12:40 PM

Still waiting...
 
Hi!

Could you please allow GNU/Linux users to use DisplayLink? Or could you publish the complete specs so that the community can build the required drivers on them?

Thanks!

gilrim 03-10-2015 02:49 PM

Got a reply, this is my attempt for translating it (oh, the irony of them linking a fbdev support page):

"I checked status with my supervisor but unfortunately Displaylinks says that Linux on have "experimental support" (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DisplayLink) and thus aren't supported under linux by Dell. This means that there isn't anything I can do about the issue, but you can contact sales at 67 11 68 00 if you'd like to return the unit."

Sjekket status med min supervisor men dessvärre så seier DisplayLink at Linux har kun "expermintal support" (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DisplayLink) og er ikke stöttet under Linux av Dell. Dette mener at det finns ikke noen som jeg kan gjöre åt saken men du kan kontakte Salg på 67 11 68 00 om du vil hevde kjöpet.

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